A profound conversation about consciousness, empathy, awakening, and remembering the truth of who you are. What if the purpose of life isn’t to escape the human experience… but to fully embrace it?

In this episode of Live the Call, Pamela Downes sits down with Taoist Master San Qing for a profound conversation on the eternal self, the human journey, and the deeper purpose behind our existence. Together, they explore what it means to be both human and eternal, why empathy may be humanity’s greatest gift, and how awakening is less about becoming something new and more about remembering who you have always been.

This conversation invites us to look beyond the distractions of modern life and reconnect with the deeper truth that exists within each of us.

In this episode, we explore:

• The eternal nature of the soul

• Why we chose the human experience

• Empathy as the superpower of humanity

• The journey of self-discovery and remembrance

• Consciousness, awakening, and personal trans